Even if they apologize, there must be a "statue of limitations" on that. Apologies for something wrongfully done 100 years ago is not much of an apology, It looks more like a countervailing action to curb the losses they are having of "awakened" people. Sincere apologies are done shortly after the mistake or the offense is commited. The longer the time that passes before acknowledging the error, the less value the apology has.
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Whats your opinion of the WTS. apologizing now for its past wrongful teachings ?
by Finkelstein insomething happened recently by the wts.
that doesn't rarely often and that is the wts.
executive editors apologizing for the organization's past mistakes and proclamations.
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Loving sister passed away and guess what and elder said...?
by suavojr inthe cycle continues.... two weeks ago a loving and fragile sister passed away due to her age and chronic health, she only had one son and 2 grandsons.
(she was the only jw in her family)when my wife gave me the sad news we immediately went over to the hospital to give some words of comfort to the grieving family.. .
what happened next was another cruel example of works for salvation vs. good deeds from love.
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Yes, the religion is dangerous, cultish, cruel and cold. However, this elder does not represent necessarily what other elders would do in his position. Jehovah's Winesses rank and file are not better or worse humans than non JW's. You get the good and the bad inside as well as outside. Generalizing about JW's from anecdotal evidence is not a great argument. By all means attack the religion, the doctrines, the leadership, but don't fall into the fallacy of judging a whole group based on one person's behavior, especially if it's not encouraged by the religion's leadership or its doctrines. I will side with you if you show me the Watchtower's article that commends this elder decision.
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Leolaia: Where is your story?
by pirata ini looked through your posts but couldn't find your life story.
have you written it?.
i would love to read your progression from/through jw to avid scholar :).
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A huge fan of Leolaia. I ran into this thread unexpectedly, but I am happy to bump it again. She is a scholar extraordinaire. Anyone who doesn't know who she is, it behooves him/her to learn everything that she has written here, including this thread about her own story. She is number one in my list, and I am sure in many people's list. I hope she stays for a long time and contributes frequently.
Thank you Leolaia for sharing so much of your knowledge and time.
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Misquotes, Lies and deception in Watchtower Publications
by jwfacts ini have just finished an article misquotes, deception and lies and would like your comments, proof reading, and any other examples that you think are important to add.
most of these already appear on jwfacts.com within specific articles, but it is more powerful seeing them included together.
there have also been a number of requests over the years for such a collection.
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Speaking of the "Faith in Action" video, has anyone noticed the part where C.T.R is shown typing (or writing, I am not sure) while in the background you can see the actual article scrolling down. You actually can see 606 B.C. Moments later there's a time line with 607 BCE as the starting point for the seven times prophecy. A mistake? An undercover apostate?
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If The Watch Tower Society Was Your Real Mother and Father, Would You Want To Live At Home?
by LoisLane looking for Superman inthe restrictive life style watch tower society puts on its members is smothering.
the ones who stay living with "mom" and "dad" must obey their rules.
talk about dysfunctional, overbearing parents with impossible ideals for their child.. bethelites = live at home with mother & father.
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If the Watchtower were my mother/father I would make myself an orphan within a day.
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Why are Ex-JW's not more effective in slaying the Watchtower monster?
by Terry inwhat the watchtower society has is focus.
what ex-jw's lack is that very thing...in spades.. .
divide and conquer, eh?
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WT is here to stay. It actually is a good choice for those who like to be told how to live their lives, for the weak and the hopeless. There will alway be people like that. However, the peak of the WT was in the recent past, the present, or the very near future. The Internet has and will continue to weaken this pack of liars until all they have left as members is the most gullible of society.
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Are atheists afraid of archaeology?
by Xanthippe inlarsinger thinks we are.
i have to answer this because it makes my blood boil.
this is one of the key things that trapped me in a religion for the first 30 years of my life.. we were told the archaeologists have found ur of the chaldeans, babylon, nineveh and evidence for the existence of the hittites.therefore the other things in the bible must be true.. archaeologsts have also found troy in modern day turkey.
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Quite the opposite. We are very hopeful that archaelogy will keep finding more and more evidence to put an end to superstition and Dark Ages religions, which are still extant in the 21st century, e.g. JW's
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What JW catch phrase DRIVES YOU NUTS!!!!
by megaflower in"we should be mindful".
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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"It must have..." to assume something that is not in the Bible but is inserted to support their doctrines/lies
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Who to blame, the coach or the team
by never a jw ini just realized that the hebrews got their butts kicked every time.
first egypt, then assyria, then babylon, then medo-persia, then greece, then rome, then many cathoilc countries in europe, then, well, some more unpleasant examples in recent times that i feel bad to mention.
who is to blame?
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I just realized that the Hebrews got their butts kicked every time. First Egypt, then Assyria, then Babylon, then Medo-Persia, then Greece, then Rome, then many Cathoilc countries in Europe, then, well, some more unpleasant examples in recent times that I feel bad to mention. Who is to blame? Their Omnipotent, Omniscient coach, or themselves, the Hebrews/Jews? If the coach is responsible for all the "losses" and refuses to take responsibility by making up punishment stories, how can anyone trust a coach with such a horrible record? You just never know when His petulant mood is going to turn agaist his own team and inflict another "loss". No wonder atheism is going up.
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So...why is taking blood essentially viewed as unforgivable by the WT?
by sd-7 inbeen hearing about this 'grey's anatomy' episode, and while i didn't see it, it brought up a question i wanted to throw out there, albeit a long-winded one, as is my usual nature.. the fact that people would rather die than take blood, as if...if they take it, they're doomed for sure to not make the new system--it doesn't make sense to me.
people both in the organization and the bible stories are forgiven for heinous crimes, murder, adultery, child sacrifice, everything up to and including denying jesus altogether.
(let's not forget child molestation and rape, apparently...) so why does it seem like this one act is presented to jws as one that's never to be forgiven?.
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The latest change of doctrine regarding blood fractions strikes me as a transition to permitting full blood transfusions. A step that, if it takes place, may bring huge legal ramifications. Imagine all the relatives of unfortunate people who rejected a blood transfusion and died as a result. They may come back against the WT for not changing the doctrine soon enough. I feel that the wrong headed doctrine is not changed because the mighty dollar precludes a sensible decision.